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Friday Feedback

Welcome to the Friday Feedback, which likes to think it’s better now than it was at this time last year. That, of course, is our conversation starter for the weekend.

And what a weekend! WVU v. Marshall in the Capital Classic, which we at charlestondailymail.com have ably covered. There’s also the potential for an Ugly Christmas Sweater Press Row. You know Jack Bo will have one. Others have been challenged. Coyle is going to participate, but then go into a phone booth and change for his televised spots … which I think is weak. Not how I roll.

Anyhow, about these Mountaineers. The 2012-13 season was a bad one for Bob Huggins and his sixth West Virginia team. This is a fact, not my opinion, and something the coach and the players have made perfectly clear many times already this season, which is one of the sneaky story lines so far. By the sounds of it, last season was just unbearable for anyone who had to experience it. Now, it’s unlikely it was that bad, and time does funny things to the way people remember and recall things, but they sure have thrown some mud at last season.

When you combine that with the failures of the football season, you put a lot of … pressure? … on Huggins and his seventh WVU team. Early on, it worked nicely, even if no one was showing up to witness it. You had a likable group of players and one who’d really taken it upon himself to get better than he’d let himself be a year ago. The ball was going up more and going in more and we were reminded points are fun and usually useful.

And everyone was probably a little too excited. I don’t know if it’s wanting too much too soon or some sort or syndrome attached to going 4-8 in football, but losses to Wisconsin (No. 4 now, by the way) and Missouri (No. 24 now, by the way) were seen as missed opportunities. That was before a Gonzaga team that’s ranked No. 20 and has taken WVU’s number and beaten the Mountaineers over the head with it twice in the past 21 months played very well on the road to snatch a win.

Break down those losses any way you want — Virginia Tech remains a bad  loss, even though the Hokies are not terrible — but you walk away with this: WVU is 6-4 after 10 games.

A year ago, the Mountaineers were 5-5 after 10 games.

A loss to Marshall Saturday in the Capital Classic leaves this team 6-5, the same mark the eventual 13-19 team had a year ago. That’s, at worst, interesting.

“It’s not a fair indication,” junior forward Kevin Noreen said. “I don’t know what the numbers were last year, but I’m sure the scoring differential in some of the losses was a lot greater than what it has been this year. Some of the losses we had last year, we kind of gave up. I don’t think you’ve seen this team give up yet.

“We’re getting there, but we’ve got to get a lot better.”

That they do, because while the schedule is tricky from here on out, WVU still has a chance to get right and get on a roll. It’s not asking a good team a lot to win the next five. But WVU hasn’t won five in a row since basically the same time in the 2011-12 season. Only Kevin Noreen was playing. Juwan State was sitting out and watching. WVU’s best streak since are some modest three-game runs.

Can this team do it? Can it run the rest of the non-conference schedule, bank some quality practices during the winter break and then nab back-to-back road games against TCU and Texas Tech? Answering that answers this: Is this team better than it was a year ago? The numbers say “Yes, kind of,” but time will tell you the most.

Onto the Feedback. As always, comments appear as posted. In other words, think before you cheat.

smeer said:

i like this team BUT

it’s still early

if the team stays on the winning side of the ledger and has a reason to play, there’s no reason to not fight, but what if a losing streak mounts – like last year?

that being said, I do believe the H’s are starting to lead – although Henderson is pressing and taking ill-advised shots.

I wonder if this young team is intimidated by better talent? Staten not taking on a big on a dribble drive, and step back jumpers and threes are the signs of a team afraid their shots gonna come back in their faces.

It’s a big obstacle – mentally – really in the gut – to believe you can play with and beat the big boys. You can verbalize it and believe it in practice, but in the heat of the game, doubt can seep in. This team needs to beat a big boy in order to believe they can beat a big boy. And it needs one of those signature wins at home (Gonzaga?) and then on the road because those are two different animals as well.

they have yet to ascend a mountain of substance.

that VT loss – which should have been a win – could have really changed the trajectory early in the season

this is a young team. early missed shots on wide open jumpers tells me the team isn’t ripe yet. it’s tight and the game is so mental.

i like that this team has fight and looks like it can hit some shots.
i like the renewed work effort
i like the depth
i like that the team is beating who they should

they’ve got to hold serve at home (against Kansas, OSU, Iowa State and Baylor?) and then steal some away – TALL task for a team with no height.

That fifth paragraph is intriguing. I’ve wondered the same thing from time to time, almost like a scouting report told them to be aware of this or that, and then when this or that pops up, WVU reacts oddly. The Gonzaga game was good and bad in that regard. I thought WVU pushed certain buttons early and found success and felt pretty good about its chances. Then when the Bulldogs started to toughen up some of those soft spots, it seemed WVU was a little spooked. Then again, that’s not unique to WVU, and truth be told, WVU played about six minutes of so-so basketball that night. 

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Don’t shoot the shooter

I think we can have a look at, have a discussion about and even have some fun with what Eron Harris said Tuesday night, his message born out of the frustration of another loss and a five-point half under the stranglehold of a defense after an 18-point half under the bright lights of the Coliseum.

But the Mamba did say this:

“You’ve got Kobe. What do they do? They screen for Kobe,” Harris said. “I’m not saying I’m Kobe, but I feel like I had a good enough half to be an option in the second half.”

I like the part where he assured us he’s not Kobe … but I also liked the idea. He is this team’s Kevin Jones, Da’Sean Butler and Joe Alexander. He is from where the points come and he’s the guys his teammates have to go to when a 10-point lead over a ranked team is getting away at home or on the road.

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The West Virginia coach still believes in his team, and rightfully so, and still believes his team will get to where it wants to get to. Yet his players concede time is ticking and a toll is being taken.

“I think there’s a level of frustration any time you lose a game because you just don’t want to lose, especially when you’re right there,” Staten said after WVU’s fourth single-digit loss this season. The Mountaineers actually led by double figures in two of those losses.

“It’s great that we’re not getting blown out or anything,” Staten added, “but it gets frustrating that the games we are losing that we’re right there. It lets us know that it’s just a couple possessions, a couple plays here or there that are costing us.”

For your ears at 9 a.m.

Scoop & Score on basketball and special guest Jake Trotter on the 2013 Big 12 season in review. You’re cordially invited.

Lots of stuff happened at the Coliseum last night

Chief among the events, WVU lost, 80-76, for the 14th straight loss to a ranked opponent and another game this season that the team might have won had it not possessed a few of the qualities that continues to doom it in close games.

The defense is at times terrible and the lapses are often untimely. The sum of those parts leaves the Mountaineers at 6-0 against bad teams and 0-4 against good teams and without a lot of bad teams left on the grid.

Other events?

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UWV!

Having laptop issues uploading Huggins’ press conference from last night. I’ll get there. I think.

Meantime, the “Waiting for the Fall” holiday special continues

 

WVU v. Gonzaga: Musing for the dogs

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“Let’s show Gonzaga that their ‘Kennel Club’ has nothing on the Mountaineer Maniacs and lets (sic) send them home with a loss in front of a national audience !”

So there are about 3,500 student tickets accounted for this evening and a WVU spokesperson told me before the game the Mountaineers were hoping to draw around 9,000 for tonight’s game at the Coliseum, where the home team is either a 21/2- or a 3-point underdog against No. 20 Gonzaga, depending on where you get your intel.

Home court variable? If nothing else, the dead week dreary students are properly armed with some decent jabs they can throw at the Bulldogs. My favorite, I think, is from the Kyle Dranginis bio: “From the great basketball state of Idaho, has scored 30 in a game but can’t start.” Special honorable mention for the tip that Sam Dower, Jr., still has a MySpace page.

Well played. But is it well blogged?

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3.17

Do me a favor today: Ask someone to take a guess at WVU’s record against the last 20 ranked opponents. You’re free to call that a person a dirty cheater if the answer is 3-17. But that’s the truth, as you can see, and a 13-game losing streak against schools with a number next to their names will do that kind of damage.

I was kind of shocked when I discovered that Sunday. I know, I know, the Mountaineers are prone to play a lot of ranked teams in the Big 12 and the Big East and given the way Bob Huggins likes to arrange his non-conference schedule. And I know, I know, WVU hasn’t been all that great of late — in fact, the Mountaineers have been ranked just once in those matchups.

But I find it extremely hard to believe a Huggins-led team hasn’t won any of the past 13 and more of the past 20. Call me naive, but it’s difficult to accept.

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More good news – good news – for WVU football

Junior college Skyler Howard committed over the weekend and Dravon Henry, a defensive back who some believe is good enough to play right away next season, committed today. The Mountaineers beat out Pitt for Henry’s services.

And the Associated Press released its all-Big 12 teams(s) today and Charles Sims proved WVU to be a doable destination with three honors.

Lost in the loss Thursday night was this sneaky gem from Bob Huggins, and one that was somewhat unsolicited after he said this team doesn’t quit and he’s only ever had one team that quit on him. A few of us perked up and wanted to follow up on that, but another question came quickly and Huggins replied and then slipped in this:

“We didn’t quit,” Huggins said. “You know we would have laid it down last year. There would have been guys taking the worst shots in the world. Then somebody else would take one worse than that.”

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