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Friday Feedback

Welcome to the Friday Feedback, which is brewed right here in this little pocket of Morgantown, but keeps coming at you free of charge. Finally got some details about which beers cost what and how they’ll be served at Mountaineer Field. Here’s what we now know:

$7: 16-ounce plastic bottles of Anheuser-Busch and MillerCoors products.
$8: 16-ounce plastic bottles of Mike’s Hard Lemonade (!) and 20-ounce plastic drafts of Anheuser-Busch and MillerCoors products.
$9: 20-ounce plastic drafts of Morgantown Brewing Company products and Blue Moon. Check back later for the exclusive announcement about orange wedges!

Call me crazy, but that’s entirely tolerable. It’s not cheap, but it’s certainly comparable to what you would either expect here or experience elsewhere. And thus ends the preliminary phase of the beermageddon at WVU. All I wanted was an A or an F. Either this thing was going to work or it was going to fail spectacularly … and trends make you tend to believe the former more than the latter. But what if, for example, WVU was pouring Old Milwaukee products and slinging Natty in the stands. What if the prices were through the roof for what they are selling? What if all the details hadn’t been covered?

As it stands, you’ve got the beers of the masses, as well as a really good local brewery, and the minutia has been mastered, right down to offering people a free soft drink if they serve as designated drivers. Really, all that’s left is figuring out how to profit off the plastic bottles — 10 cents in Michigan!

Onto the Feedback. As always, comments appear as posted. In other words, police yourself.

Homer said:

Just so I’m clear: the two biggest stories in college football the last two weeks involved or were originated by Doug Gottleib and Teddy Dupay. Right?

It was a bad time for the empire.

Dr. Stern said:

“Find grass.”

– Holgorsen learned that concept at a clinic in Eugene, OR….

Maybe. By the way, that Oregon v. LSU game may be decimated by arrests,  investigations and suspensions. Even before the LSU calamity, I’d been hearing about the NCAA and Oregon. I guess the NCAA is busy?

Jeff in Akron said:

Brad Edwards has WVU and Va Tech in the Orange Bowl. I would love to get the Black Diamond back. Plus, I wonder if the new rules apply to bowl games. At least Holgorsen would get his grass.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/bowls/projections?season=2011&week=0

Mike, WVU is only a couple of years away from replacing the field turf, is Holgorsen pushing for a new natural grass surface?

Interesting question. I’d say he’s very interested in it since he didn’t practice much on the fake stuff early on and even admitted he’s not a fan because it’s rough on the body. Figure if he wins some games and banks some capital, he’ll probably push for it. I just think with the geography and the climate, to say nothing of the money saved by replacing the artificial turf every few years instead of constantly managing the natural grass, it probably won’t happen. WVU has to practice outside because of it’s wee indoor facility and practices — players, equipment for drills, golf carts, etc. — just destroy the grass. Let’s keep an eye on this. It’s not like Mountaineer Field gets used like Heinz Field. I’m interested to see how Holgorsen’s evolves with this topic.

The Artist Formerly Known as EER96 said:

Mike:

I was fully expecting you to pass Holgs a bottle of water during Saturday’s presser in the South endzone!

If I disliked one of his answers, I had an Aquafina at the ready.

Karl said:

I vividly remember what Dunlap was talking about. The kids on that 1997 team seemed to have a religious objection to just wrapping a guy up and taking him down. Every tackle attempt looked like a failed flying crossbody move like Starman in the old Nintendo game Pro Wrestling. Their fundamentals stunk.

In their defense, it was hard to hit the somersault kick in the open field …

JC said:

I suspect that Casteel, Dunlap, and company will have the defense playing well this season. I’ve got a feeling that they will play well above what may be expected of them, given all the starters and contributors lost.

I also think the speculation of the defense getting tired with the type of offense Holgs runs will be a bit overblown. The strength and condition program has always seemed to be very good and I could see that paying big dividends this season.

I think the fatigue factor may be getting overplayed, yes, but you do need to have good play from Nos. 12-22. If you’re having a hard time finding 11, as it sounds like Casteel is, then you do have to wonder how you get to 22, right? I still say Casteel’s most valuable ability is making his team peak near the end of the season.

AnxiousEER97 said:

Perlo was on that ’97 team.

Didn’t Mr. Bastien have a nickname back then? I seem to remember someone telling me he had one.

KMS said:

I once attended a party where I came across Perlo Bastien and Solomon Page smoking rather large, funny-smelling cigars.  This was during the regular season, mind you.  I wouldn’t know how this might effect the game of football, but it apparently didn’t have the same effect on Solomon as it did on Perlo.

Nevermind.

pushthebutton said:

Will anyone else admit to being excited about Perlo’s potential after his freshman year when he was able to hide amongst the veterans in the secondary?
I will fess up to this idiocracy.

Idiocracy!

SheikYbuti said:

Mike Logan. Charles Emmanuel. Vann Washington. Perlo Bastien. One of these things is not like the otherrrrs . . . one of these things just doesn’t belonnnng.

I think I got this one right.

Jeff in Akron said:

According to WVUstats.com there are only two receivers in Mountaineer history to tally more than 1,000 yards in a season, D.Saunders had 1043 in 96 and it has not been done since C. Henry in 03 with 1006.

Anybody want to give odds that the 1,000 yard list doubles by the end of the season and Neheln is one of them. I say the odds are even that the list doubles and 2 to 1 that Nehlen is a part of it. It’s past time that the 1,000 yard list of receivers at WVU got bigger.

Henry should have that record and some distance, but he couldn’t stay out of trouble and on the field in ’06. Doubling the membership seems like a tough task, but that’s what makes it a fun bet, right? Let’s take 2 to 1. I say it happens, yes, and I’ll take Tavon, but tease it and use Stedman as the second and not Nehlen. I wonder if he can run away from McCartney — and that’s a good problem for WVU to have.

JP said:

So what’s the depth chart at WR now? I-Mac, Nehlen, Bailey, and ??? I haven’t heard much about JD Woods or Brad Starks. WIllie Milhouse – or is he playing at IR now? Davon Brown is playing IR too …

Nehlen and McCartney battling for one outside spot. Stedman has the other, but J.D. will be there. Tavon is ahead of Millhouse at one slot position and Urban is ahead of Brown, though Holgorsen said they’ll play about the same number of snaps.

Gordo said:

I’m really excited for Nehlen, but it does make me wonder: why is he just now getting this opportunity? Sounds like he’s been making impressive catches in practice since he was a freshman. Why is he just now getting a shot? Its not like we’ve been real deep at that position either.

Uh, good question. I will say he’s not the player now that he was then. He has improved and developed. He’s also missed time because of injuries and school. Then factor in the glass ceiling a walk-on has to break through first. It takes time.

MontanaEer said:

Interesting that Davon Brown was bored playing in Wake’s offense, the same offense that produced Jeff Mullen, the same offense that bored us.

I caught that, too.

Drew said:

Speaking of John Pennington, while most fans think of that catch against Pitt, I always think of standing in the rain in Blacksburg watching the TD he dropped in 2004 and (if my memory serves me correctly) the subsequent FG attempt that was blocked and returned for a TD.

The part that really sticks out, though, was one of my professors calling his name for roll the following Monday. When the absent Pennington didn’t answer, the professor muttered, just loud enough for everyone to hear, “I wouldn’t show my face if I was him, either.” Laughter ensued.

Sad, but that’s when the 2004 season fell apart. Rasheed still swears he could go out and throw the same pass today and Pennington would catch it today. The worst part about that, to me, at least, was that Pennington was a good kid. That team had major and ultimately decisive chemistry and attitude problems, yet people remember Pennington’s error and not other destructive elements. What’s the saying? Careful what you wish for …

JP said:

Stewart’s no show at the 2008 Countdown to Kickoff was a dress rehearsal for his no-show at the East Carolina game.

But the hurricane!

JP said:

Not to mention his encore performance at Colorado the following week.

I’ll mention it. I’ll never forget it, either. Flatly refused to acknowledge, let alone discuss, the key sequence of the game.

Homer said:

Lovely that the school cannot even order its school colors correctly for effect.

Reminds me of when Dick Rod called for the “Gold Rush” and then sent the team on the field in blue jerseys.

Stuff (anything) happens.

The 25314:

We were in the desert, with casinos over here, and dance halls over there. Pockets full of money. We had 125 young men. Eight days, seven nights — one curfew bust. I am a man of character, not a character. When I say I’ll be at the Countdown to Kickoff, I will be there. Cub scout honor.

Two mysteries I’ve never solved that, for some reason, stick with me: Who busted curfew (I’m pretty sure I know, but could never confirm it) and who was the third person with Ellis Lankster and J.T. Thomas the night they stole from a house party? (Same deal, but I was told we’d never knew because “you’d understand why.”)

hershy112 said:

Stewart forgot to set his alarm.

When I think about it, things really started to go bad for Bill when they started to go bad for the well-alarm clocked Tiger Woods. This has to be connected, right? Bitancurt kicks the game-winner the night Ti parks on a tree and, well, nothing was ever the same for either.

SheikYbuti said:

Stewart didn’t make the event because he was stuck after practice; he couldn’t figure out how to take off his headset, which was still plugged into the sideline wiring.

Sugar Bowl quarterback Darren Studstill can’t get this image out of his head, either.

Bill said:

Speaking of Billy Boy Stewart, have we had any sightings in Morgantown, or is he laying low?

Still in town, still hitting that 5:30 mass on Saturday night, still being Blaine’s dad and doing things a dad does when his kid is a high school junior.

I might be Bill Stewart said:

He didn’t show up because he was too busy telling Dave Johnson and Jeff Mullen that they didn’t have jobs.

So, seriously, get off Stew’s back. Now, I don’t care at all about stats, but he won 28 games here. 28 games! Just 12 losses folks. Four bowl games, including a big one down in the desert if you all remember. Mike here remembers, don’t cha Mike?

And I think those star recruiting ratings are a joke. But according to recruiting sites who do those recruiting rankings, I (I mean Bill Stewart) brought in the best recruiting classes in the history of the Old Gold and Blue. You can throw those star rankings out the window, but Tavon Austin was a 4-star recruit. I snuck in the back door of his high school, talked to him and his daddy – who’s a good friend of mine – and snuck out and no one even knew I was there. I talked to his brother too. Always recruit the younger brother. You think about that.

Now I don’t read the newspaper clippings, but you put that in your story, Mike.

Casazza: Thanks Coach, will do.

You betcha.

“might be . . .”  might be too strong. For a moment, I forgot this was a blog and not a postgame press conference.

ccteam said:

I would never throw a coach under the bus, but Stew just didn’t show up that night.

Everybody wants me to throw him under the bus, but I’m not doing it. Their coaching meetings were better than our kickoff party that  night.

The 25314 said:

He was busy beating South Florida two out of three times.

That, I will miss.

pknocker40 said:

Did you see the Alumni Association zone blitzing every play?

Exactly as we expected.

JP said:

FYI, the Big East Bias blog is “Now With 98% less Hooey.” Ha. http://www.bigeastcoastbias.com/

Wonderful guys.

pknocker40 said:

Per Hertzel:

“The MillerCoors people, perhaps having trouble getting to town from Milwaukee and Denver, were not on hand, but one written report suggested that Miller Lite, Coors Lite and Red Dog will be available in plastic bottles, Olde English and Magnum in the 40s.”

I guess that’s true.

JP said:

I guess the Cutty will be only served in the press box.

Getting near the end here.

Karl said:

That clip makes me glad I didn’t go to Villanova.

I wouldn’t have had a problem with someone tackling Jay Wright in that clip, just so he wouldn’t be associated with this inexplicably popular nuisance. In fact, I blame the students for letting their coach get caught on film.

JP said:

I don’t understand the attraction of flash mobs. Why would a grown man want to dance to Katy Perry in the middle of a sidewalk with a bunch of kids half his age?

… I sense sarcasm?

glibglub said:

It is my fervent hope that there is no music on Earth that would coax Bob Huggins into a flash mob.

Here’s the thing I gather about Huggins: He aggressively does not care what others think of him, so I wonder, if the offer was right and made by the right people, he’d say, “OK. What, people are going to laugh? At me?” I mean, the guy has friends roast him, all in the name of charity. And now I’m concerned or curious, or both, we’re going to have a flash mob Friday.

Jeff in Akron said:

For a Flash Mob it has to be Flashdance, I can see it now Huggins sitting in a chair and sticking his chest out while Holgorsen dumps a keg of Old Morgantown Pale Ale on him. “Oh what a feeling”!

I’ve got a feeling right now. It’s not good.

hershy112 said:

It would have to be something by Johnny Cash. Ya know, the whole man in black thing.

Yes! And Huggins could keep up with Cash’s tempo, too.

jaybirdeer said:

It would have to be CEJ, just for you Casazza! He would do it only to torment you!

The bell tolls for thee, CEJ.

The 25314 said:

I would give years off of my life to see Mickey perform a flashmob dance to the “Old Grey Mare.”

This blog ain’t what she used to be … and I couldn’t be happier about it.

Bob Thompson said:

Perhaps Jay should focus on dancing in March instead of August….

Mike Rice wonders if the refs helped him get through this dance, too.

Spatial Angel said:

Is Hertzel’s source knowledgeable. or is he a dufus like me?

Knowledgeable. He’s got quite a legacy.

Michael said:

Japan had been as secretive as Holgorsen during World War II, we’d all be eating sushi now.”

Mike-

Please tell Hertzel that we are eating Sushi now and, more disconcertingly, it seems we have inherited their economy as well… Oh waiter, I’ll have some stagnation in my Bento Box.

You tell Hertz that. I promise you you’ll leave the discussion impressed by how secretive Japan was and by how sushi has not caught on in America.

The Artist Formerly Known as EER96 said:

Can somebody get Bill Stewart on the phone for a history review?

You can try, but it won’t work.

pknocker40 said:

I thought the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
Anywho, Holgorsen actually holds the Japanese in high regard — he used to talk X’s and O’s with a few deckhands from Osaka during his apprenticeship with the Dread Pirate Leach. It was these conversations that influenced Holgorsen to shift the basis of his passing attack from Captain Leach’s horizontal inclinations towards vertically-based route trees — that way the defense can’t anticipate specific patterns because every receiver starts every route running straight ahead until he makes his break. Say what you want about their culinary stylings, but the Japanese know how to scheme an air raid.

Enjoy the weekend!

P.S. USA!